I posted this image on my facebook page yesterday (in violation of SOPA/PIPA…and a double violation posting it here) originally in jest, then I got kind of a wake up call.

OK, not really a wake up call, I knew people thought like this, but coming from one of my FB friends who I had thought was quite intelligent years ago when we met was a bit of a shock.

A brief disclaimer though, I had known that this individual became “born again” a few years ago and moved to a solid red state. We had sparred in jest about politics on FB before, but this was the final straw for me…

Before I post my knee-jerk reply, let me dissect this point by point.

1) Obama hasn’t created any jobs:

Myth or Fact? : FACT.

A president can’t create jobs. He can, however create a climate that is open for business to grow and hire more people. Granted the current climate is not exactly condusive to job growth, but the economy added jobs anyway.

….the U.S. private sector has now added 1.67 million jobs in 2011, well ahead of last year’s private-sector total of 1.2 million, and the best year for businesses since 2006. Since March 2010, American businesses have created 2.9 million jobs.

and….

Responding the jobs report, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) noted that President Obama and the Democratic Congress have created “more jobs in 2010 than President Bush did over eight years.”

Indeed, from February 2001, Bush’s first full month in office, through January 2009, his last, the economy added just 1 million jobs. By contrast, in 2010 alone, the economy added at least 1.1 million jobs. This chart, produced by Pelosi’s office, demonstrates the difference between the Bush administration and the Obama administration on jobs:

Point 1 : Debunked (sort of)

2) The Stimulus didn’t create any jobs.

Myth or Fact? : MYTH.

Factcheck has the details…

But it’s just false to say that the stimulus created “no jobs” or “failed to save and create jobs” or “has done nothing to reduce unemployment” – or similar claims that the stimulus did not produce any jobs.

As we have written before, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office released a report in August that said the stimulus bill has “[l]owered the unemployment rate by between 0.7 percentage points and 1.8 percentage points” and “[i]ncreased the number of people employed by between 1.4 million and 3.3 million.”

Simply put, more people would be unemployed if not for the stimulus bill. The exact number of jobs created and saved is difficult to estimate, but nonpartisan economists say there’s no doubt that the number is positive.

I know from experience that the American Investment and Recovery Act created jobs. Several highway projects around my area were funded by it, and that created jobs.

Point 2 : Debunked

3) Keystone XL would create “thousands of jobs” in many cities.

Myth or Fact?: MYTH.

Not only would Keystone XL be a massive environmental liability, the myth of “thousands of jobs” is promulgated by those who have a substantial financial stake in the project…most notably Speaker Boehner….

Environmentalists note that in December 2010, according to Boehner’s financial disclosure forms, he invested $10,000 to $50,000 each in seven firms that had a stake in Canada’s oil sands, the region that produces the oil the pipeline would transport. The firms include six oil companies — BP, Canadian Natural Resources, Chevron, Conoco Phillips, Devon Energy and Exxon — along with Emerson Electric, which has a contract to provide the digital automation for the first phase of a $9.4 billion Horizon Oil Sands Project in Canada.

How many American jobs would Keystone actually create?

However, these tremendous-seeming jobs claims are based entirely on a report by the Perryman Group, commissioned by the pipeline’s owner TransCanada, whose results have been described as “dead wrong” and “meaningless” by Council on Foreign Relations fellow Michael Levi and environmental economist Andrew Leach, neither of whom oppose the construction of the pipeline.

The only independent analysis conducted of the American job-creation potential of the Keystone XL pipeline finds that between 500 and 1400 temporary construction jobs will be created, with a negative long-term economic impact as gas prices rise in the Midwest and environmental costs are borne:

Finally on this point, I quote from a blog that I plan to start following in my RSS feed…

Killing the Keystone XL pipeline is neither a job killer nor a giving away of American oil. It’s not our oil and the Republicans have greatly inflated the job creation potential for this project. The entire concept of oil sands is extremely controversial within Canada. It is as desperate a move as fracking to keep us dependent on fossil fuels, and is proof that oil is a finite resource.

Point 3 : Thoroughly Debunked

Whew! So much for that writer’s block!

Now, here’s my reply…it’s basically a “shut the fuck up” type of thing. In hindsight I should have recognized his ignorance and just posted my points above…but I had a little too much to drink :)

Yeah so, I’m a little mean there, but looking back on my “uninformed” post from yesterday, my frustration was at a very high level.

 

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